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18:20:19:0318:30:09:12 >>> coming up next on "arizona 18:30:10:09 horizon" -- the latest arizona18:30:12:24 news from points south in 18:30:15:06 tonight's edition of southern18:30:16:15 exposure. 18:30:17:15 learn how an old treatment is18:30:19:03 being used to extends the lives 18:30:20:24 of men with prostate cancer and18:30:22:27 see the latest high-tech gadgets 18:30:26:09 designed for border security.18:30:27:24 those stories next on "arizona 18:30:28:24 horizon."18:30:30:12 >> "arizona horizon" is made 18:30:31:18 possible by contributions from18:30:33:03 the friends of 8, members of 18:30:35:09 your arizona pbs station.18:30:36:27 thank you.

18:30:39:06 >>> good evening.18:30:39:24 welcome to "arizona horizon." 18:30:41:18 i'm ted simons.18:30:42:09 the arizona republic reports 18:30:43:27 state superintendent of public18:30:45:06 instruction june huppenthal now 18:30:47:24 admits to anonymously posting18:30:49:24 controversial statements on 18:30:51:09 various political blogs, under18:30:53:03 the names falcon nine and 18:30:55:12 thucydides for the past three18:30:57:12 years. 18:30:57:21 his comments include calling18:30:59:03 recipients of public assistance 18:31:01:18 lazy pigs and comparing the18:31:03:12 founder of planned parenthood to18:31:05:09 the nazis.

18:31:06:15 late yesterday he released a18:31:07:21 statement to the arizona 18:31:08:09 republic expressing regret.18:31:10:18 if my comments offended anyone. 18:31:12:24 he also said he participates in18:31:14:21 online blogs as a forum to 18:31:17:06 advocate for and discuss issues18:31:18:18 related to economics, energy, 18:31:20:21 criminal justice reform and in18:31:22:06 recent years, education. 18:31:36:27 >>> every month we bring you up18:31:38:03 to date on issues south of the 18:31:39:24 gila in southern exposure.18:31:42:00 tonight we look at a variety of 18:31:43:12 issues including the flood of18:31:44:21 unaccompanied minors being 18:31:46:12 transferred to nogales.18:31:47:24 jim minutes yell, senior writer

18:31:50:06 for the tucson weekly joins us.18:31:52:21 good to see you. 18:31:54:24 >> good to be here.18:31:55:21 >> the whole country is watching 18:31:57:09 what's happening at the nogales18:31:59:15 detention center, the border 18:32:01:09 patrol placement center.18:32:02:09 what's the latest? 18:32:04:12 >> they are still trying to sort18:32:05:18 out what they are going to do. 18:32:07:09 they have about 130018:32:08:27 unaccompanied minor of all ages. 18:32:11:18 it's a real mess.18:32:13:12 to try to figure out what you do18:32:15:24 with these kids who are in this 18:32:17:27 country.18:32:18:09 we had a piece on the weekly

18:32:20:27 today an account from somebody18:32:22:18 called the border action knelt 18:32:24:03 work in tucson who had a tourof 18:32:25:27 the facility talking about how18:32:27:21 heartbreaking it was to walk 18:32:29:18 around in this facility, really18:32:30:24 designed to house criminals, and 18:32:33:06 seeing all these children in18:32:34:27 these different little cages 18:32:36:24 essentially.18:32:37:21 you know, you have teen moms in 18:32:39:27 there with their infant children18:32:41:12 trying to handle the stress of 18:32:44:00 being here and next you'll have18:32:47:06 another federal department 18:32:48:06 coming in to try to figure out18:32:49:24 how to take these kids and

18:32:51:09 reunite them with family members18:32:53:03 here in the states. 18:32:55:00 >> the reaction from southern18:32:57:21 arizona residents now, what are 18:32:59:06 they saying down there?18:33:00:15 are we seeing protests? 18:33:02:12 efforts from local leaders to18:33:03:21 try to take care of these kids? 18:33:06:00 good luck with that, they arein 18:33:07:27 federal custody.18:33:08:27 >> not so much protests but 18:33:10:09 there's an effort among local18:33:11:24 officials to find ways to try to18:33:13:18 make their lives a little 18:33:14:27 better.18:33:15:21 find ways to make sure that they

18:33:17:09 have the supplies they need.18:33:18:21 you have local nonprofits trying 18:33:20:18 to gather materials for that.18:33:23:03 make sure they are well fed, 18:33:25:21 well clothed and will being18:33:27:03 taken care of. 18:33:28:09 >> is any of this fodder for the18:33:30:21 barber mcsally congressional 18:33:33:00 race down there?18:33:34:06 >> neither one has come out with 18:33:35:21 a lot of conversation about this18:33:37:21 particular point at this 18:33:39:18 juncture.18:33:41:06 >> we'll wait and see. 18:33:42:18 nationally it seems like a huge18:33:44:06 story but there's a limit to 18:33:45:12 what you can do because of the18:33:46:21 federal nature of the issue.

18:33:48:15 >> exactly.18:33:49:06 they have to figure out where do18:33:50:21 these kids go next. 18:33:52:15 i talked with a state lawmaker18:33:54:00 who had toured the facility and 18:33:55:06 he said what basically will18:33:57:00 happies they will try to find 18:33:58:15 relatives here and put them into18:34:01:06 those households rather than 18:34:02:27 trying to adjudicate them to the18:34:05:06 legal system. 18:34:06:09 >>> to the rosemont mine.18:34:07:21 what is the rosemont mine, where 18:34:09:21 is it planned to be located and18:34:11:06 what is the latest on that 18:34:12:21 proposed facility?18:34:14:09 >> it's a massive copper mine

18:34:16:00 that's proposed in the santa18:34:18:03 rita mountains, southwest of 18:34:19:27 tucson in a really beautiful,18:34:23:06 pristine area of southern 18:34:25:18 arizona.18:34:26:03 there's a lot of concern among 18:34:27:21 our local officials about the18:34:29:00 impact of a mile wide open pit 18:34:32:24 mine being opened up down there18:34:34:15 both on the water quality and 18:34:37:27 the water supplies in southern18:34:40:03 arizona as well as impact on 18:34:41:21 tourism, impact on the state18:34:43:12 highway that all the trucks will 18:34:45:03 be moving down.18:34:46:12 the local officials for the most 18:34:48:00 part are opposed but it's a18:34:50:00 federal issue.

18:34:50:27 the federal government is the18:34:52:12 one that has the role of 18:34:54:15 approving or not approving the18:34:57:00 mine. 18:34:57:15 it's very difficult for the18:34:58:15 federal government to say no to 18:35:00:03 something like this, however the18:35:01:24 mine thought it would be in 18:35:02:24 operation already.18:35:03:15 they said they would have their 18:35:04:24 permits in place by the ends of18:35:06:09 this month. 18:35:07:03 now the environmental protection18:35:07:21 agency has raised red flags 18:35:09:27 about the impact on the18:35:11:00 waterways down there. 18:35:12:24 the fish and and wildlife18:35:15:18 service is raising red flags on

18:35:18:27 the impact of endangered18:35:20:24 species. 18:35:21:18 we have spotted jaguars, there's18:35:23:24 an ocelot in that area. 18:35:26:15 there's a lot more hurdles18:35:28:12 coming up for the canadian 18:35:29:24 company that owns this mine to18:35:31:03 jump through and they have some 18:35:32:27 problems because they face a18:35:34:03 hostile takeover. 18:35:35:12 this is the first time they have18:35:36:24 tried a mine on this level, and 18:35:39:00 there's another mining company18:35:40:09 in canada that's trying to do a18:35:42:09 hostile takeover of this 18:35:44:03 company.18:35:44:15 lots to be softed out before

18:35:46:24 this mine opens up.18:35:48:09 >> i know there's got to be 18:35:50:09 someone down there for this18:35:51:09 thing. 18:35:51:18 jobs, economy.18:35:52:18 how much of an impact would a 18:35:54:27 mine a mile wide make in18:35:57:06 southern arizona region? 18:35:59:03 >> you do have the chamber of18:36:01:21 commerce, a handful of 18:36:02:24 republican politicians saying18:36:04:12 this is good for the community 18:36:05:15 and they are fighting on behalf18:36:07:03 of it saying it will create 18:36:08:15 thousands of jobs and a ripple18:36:10:21 effect will create thousands of 18:36:12:12 jobs and be a boon to the18:36:13:21 economy.

18:36:14:15 >> can erosemont keep amending18:36:17:03 their proposal to placate the 18:36:19:12 epa or army corps of engineers?18:36:21:12 how far along are we, how far in18:36:24:00 the process can you still go? 18:36:26:00 >> they thought they would be18:36:27:00 done by now. 18:36:28:00 they are not.18:36:28:18 they have had been amending it. 18:36:31:21 though say these are just bumps18:36:33:09 in the road, they can continue 18:36:34:18 to fine ways to mitigate the18:36:38:21 damage they are going to do to 18:36:40:15 the aquifer and eventually the18:36:42:24 federal agencies will say yes 18:36:45:00 and opponents say that's not18:36:47:15 going to happen, the epa is

18:36:49:06 going to stop this thing.18:36:51:18 whether this permit gets issued 18:36:53:03 or not i expect lawsuits willbe 18:36:54:21 filed to either say it shouldn't18:36:56:21 have been ironed or should have 18:36:58:03 been issued.18:36:58:18 i suspect the whole thing is 18:37:00:09 going to court.18:37:01:09 >>> there's a development 18:37:02:12 planned for sierra vista put on18:37:04:15 hold by a judge. 18:37:05:12 we talked about this in the past18:37:07:15 regarding water issues. 18:37:08:27 talk about this in ticker the18:37:10:21 impact on the san pedro river 18:37:13:00 and this development in sierra18:37:14:00 vista.

18:37:15:00 the judge made an interesting18:37:16:24 ruling. 18:37:17:00 >> he did.18:37:17:24 the first time a judge has 18:37:19:03 stepped in and said, you do not18:37:20:21 have this 100 years assured 18:37:23:12 water supply that you need to18:37:25:21 show without causing significant 18:37:27:06 damage to the flow of the san18:37:28:12 pedro river, which is one of the 18:37:30:00 last waterways that is still18:37:31:24 flowing in southern arizona. 18:37:33:00 there's great concern about18:37:35:06 whether or not all these new 18:37:36:09 homes would cause such a18:37:38:03 drainage to the aquifer that it 18:37:39:24 would apicked the flow of the18:37:41:06 river.

18:37:41:21 that's also connects to fort18:37:43:15 huachuca. 18:37:44:15 the fort has been working hard18:37:46:12 to try to conserve more water. 18:37:48:00 they also depend on the18:37:50:12 continued flow of the san pedro 18:37:52:03 because the federal government18:37:53:09 wants to see that river keep 18:37:54:18 going and if there's problems18:37:55:24 with that then you could have 18:37:57:06 ripple effect to the fort where18:38:00:00 people are saying, let's not 18:38:01:24 admissions to the fort or let's18:38:03:18 close the fort down in a worst 18:38:05:03 case scenario because of the18:38:07:00 environmental damage. 18:38:08:15 >> we should mention again, the18:38:10:00 curiosity here with the judge's

18:38:11:24 ruling isn't so much the 10018:38:14:09 year plan isn't met, you may 18:38:16:00 have the plan but look what it18:38:17:18 is doing to a fleeing, existing 18:38:20:18 river.18:38:21:03 >> right. 18:38:21:15 i think that's a very unique18:38:23:06 case here in arizona. 18:38:24:06 we'll see where this goes.18:38:25:15 >> what about the reaction in 18:38:26:27 southern arizona?18:38:27:18 the san pedro, we hear so much 18:38:29:21 about it, it's a beautiful18:38:31:06 river, bird watching, wildlife. 18:38:33:15 is it a beloved area?18:38:35:00 are people aware of what's 18:38:36:21 planned down there?18:38:37:21 >> i don't think they are still

18:38:39:18 aware in tucson but in sierra18:38:41:18 vista they are. 18:38:43:27 it's a flash point.18:38:44:27 there are people who support it 18:38:46:12 because they say the economic18:38:48:12 activity is good for the 18:38:49:15 community and there's people who18:38:50:18 oppose it because they are 18:38:52:00 concerned about the18:38:52:27 environmental impact. 18:38:53:27 >> that's the question, is that18:38:55:12 kind of like a beloved area in 18:38:57:06 southern arizona?18:38:58:21 how do residents feel? 18:39:00:06 >> it is definitely beloved.18:39:01:27 very important again to the 18:39:03:06 tourism industry, birdwatchers18:39:05:00 come down there, other

18:39:06:12 eco-tourists come into that18:39:08:06 area, very similar in some 18:39:09:21 respects to the debate over the18:39:11:06 mine. 18:39:11:21 >> before you go, the u of a is18:39:14:06 taking part in the sigh reduce 18:39:16:12 rex asteroid mission.18:39:18:18 it's fascinating. 18:39:19:27 >> really incredible mission18:39:20:24 that the u. of a. managed to 18:39:22:18 land, a $1 billion project they18:39:24:27 are in the process of building a18:39:26:03 spacecraft that will take off 18:39:27:12 from earth, go up into the orbit18:39:31:00 around an asteroid, circle 18:39:32:24 around it for a year and a half,18:39:34:24 then get up close to it, give

it18:39:36:27 a kiss, blast it with some 18:39:39:03 carbon dioxide, capture some of18:39:41:27 the fragments that come off of 18:39:43:09 it in a capsule, send that back18:39:45:15 to earth. 18:39:45:27 it will land in the utah desert18:39:49:12 ten years from now and 18:39:51:00 scientists will have a sampleso 18:39:52:21 they can find out more about18:39:54:21 asteroids. 18:39:55:27 >> scheduled to launch fall of18:39:57:12 2016, hitting the asteroid 2018. 18:40:00:09 this is ten years from now we18:40:02:15 get results out of this thing. 18:40:04:09 >> it is amazing when you think18:40:05:27 about all the math involved

18:40:07:03 alone.18:40:07:21 pretty tough stuff. 18:40:09:00 i just find the u. of a.'s18:40:12:12 contribution to the space 18:40:13:15 program remarkable.18:40:14:12 this is another step in that 18:40:15:24 direction.18:40:16:15 >> remarkable. 18:40:17:03 how much interest -- you go to18:40:19:00 tucson you mentioned u. of a., 18:40:20:27 all anyone wants to talk about18:40:22:12 is basketball. 18:40:23:06 do they have close to the same18:40:24:24 level of interest in something 18:40:27:00 like space missions?18:40:28:09 >> they do. 18:40:28:24 science is a huge thing in18:40:30:09 southern arizona.

18:40:31:00 they do these lectures with the18:40:33:12 u. of a. college of science in 18:40:34:21 the spring once a week and they18:40:38:09 fill up centennial hall to hear 18:40:41:27 what the lecturers have to say.18:40:46:09 this is going to be another 18:40:47:15 feather in our cap.18:40:48:24 >> we got to keep an eye on the 18:40:50:15 sierra vista development, on the18:40:52:12 nogales detention center, and as18:40:54:12 far as rosemont, that thing, 18:40:56:06 again, that doesn't sound very18:40:57:15 good. 18:40:57:24 they don't sound like they are18:40:59:18 in good position right now. 18:41:01:15 >> i think they did not expect18:41:02:27 all these delays.

18:41:04:03 there are some concerns among18:41:05:24 opponents of the mine or hopes 18:41:07:15 among the opponents of the mine18:41:09:09 perhaps that the company will 18:41:10:15 run out of money.18:41:11:12 they have had some real problems 18:41:12:24 with cash flow.18:41:14:03 they managed to get another loan 18:41:16:15 released recently that's given18:41:18:21 them more operating capital but 18:41:20:06 they are on the edge18:41:21:15 financially. 18:41:22:06 >> all right, jim, always a18:41:24:06 pleasure, the latest from 18:41:25:18 southern arizona.18:41:26:12 thank you so much. 18:41:27:12 >> it's a pleasure to come up.18:42:18:12 >>> get the inside scoop on

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18:42:49:03 dr. alan bryce is here now to18:42:51:15 discuss the treatment. 18:42:52:12 good to have you here.18:42:53:27 new life it sounds like for an 18:42:55:12 old chemo drug?18:42:57:03 >> indeed. 18:42:58:12 very exciting development that18:42:59:21 was just announced earlier this 18:43:01:27 month at looking at using oneof 18:43:03:18 our old standards in prostate18:43:05:06 cancer in a mu new way that has 18:43:07:27 made it dramatically more18:43:09:12 effective than before. 18:43:11:09 >> what is the name of the drug?18:43:12:24 how was it used before, how 18:43:14:18 could it now be used to help18:43:16:06 people?

18:43:17:00 >> the drug is called docitaxe18:43:22:00 yl. 18:43:22:15 it was previously used very late18:43:25:06 in the course of prostate 18:43:26:15 cancer, for patients far down18:43:28:12 the line. 18:43:28:27 in that setting it was approved18:43:30:15 in 2006 with a survival 18:43:33:18 advantage that is a life18:43:35:00 extension of only about two 18:43:36:12 months.18:43:36:21 that was modest, clearly, it's 18:43:39:06 not that much to get excited18:43:40:18 about, but it was the best we 18:43:42:06 had at the time.18:43:43:15 what happened in the intervening 18:43:46:12 years, in the last four years18:43:48:03 there's been a revolution in

18:43:50:00 property tate cancer.18:43:51:09 five new drugs have come on the 18:43:53:15 market, hormone drugs, immune18:43:55:12 drugs, further chemotherapy 18:43:58:00 drugs.18:43:59:03 they have also provided life 18:44:01:03 extension on the order of twoto 18:44:03:21 five months and the old drug was18:44:06:18 pushed further back down the 18:44:07:27 line.18:44:09:12 but there's a variety of 18:44:10:12 scientific reasons why many of18:44:11:21 us who do research in this field 18:44:13:21 felt that was a mistake, thatit 18:44:15:15 really ought to be early in the18:44:16:24 disease course, so this study

18:44:18:27 was designed to test that18:44:20:27 hypothesis. 18:44:22:00 >> why wasn't it early in the18:44:23:03 disease course earlier? 18:44:25:15 >> part of it is the fairly18:44:28:00 natural bias people have against 18:44:30:21 chemotherapy.18:44:31:21 we certainly understand it 18:44:32:27 causes side effects, it's hard18:44:34:18 on the patient. 18:44:35:15 it also required a change in18:44:38:18 therapy, mostly patients would 18:44:40:03 be managed by their surgeons and18:44:41:27 this required sending the 18:44:43:27 patient to the oncologiesist.18:44:46:03 that transition is a certain 18:44:47:27 barrier to entry certainly.18:44:49:21 >> you were talking before the

18:44:51:12 program that in many cases18:44:52:27 prostate cancer patients never 18:44:54:21 get to see the oncologist.18:44:57:00 >> we find about 40% of prostate 18:44:58:27 cancer patients who die of18:45:00:15 prostate cancer in the u.s. 18:45:02:06 never receive this drug at all.18:45:04:15 in many cases it's because the 18:45:06:06 conversation never really came18:45:08:00 up. 18:45:09:09 so what happened now with this18:45:11:00 study is the chemotherapy was 18:45:15:27 given at the beginning rather18:45:17:09 than at the end. 18:45:18:09 what it ended up showing was18:45:19:27 that it standed -- extended life 18:45:22:27 by over a year, just over 1318:45:24:21 months.

18:45:25:12 >> as far as trials are18:45:26:24 concerned, explain what was 18:45:29:00 done, what was looked at and18:45:30:24 what was found. 18:45:31:24 >> so the study looked at taking18:45:34:27 this well established drug and 18:45:37:09 giving it right in the beginning18:45:38:18 of treatment for metastatic 18:45:41:27 prostate cancer in a setting18:45:43:06 where previously the standard of18:45:44:18 care was just do hormones. 18:45:47:00 take away a man's testosterone18:45:49:00 and that would usually work for 18:45:50:18 a year or two.18:45:51:15 but what we did was we gave six 18:45:54:06 cycles of this chemotherapy over18:45:56:15 a course of 18 weeks in

18:45:58:03 combination with the hormone18:45:59:06 therapy, and the chemo would end 18:46:02:21 and hormones would continue.18:46:04:09 in doing that, the survival of 18:46:07:09 all the patients was extendedby 18:46:09:21 over a year, but in the highest18:46:11:18 risk patients with the most 18:46:12:27 metastatic disease the survival18:46:15:06 advantage was over 17 months. 18:46:17:09 >> was that a surprise?18:46:18:21 >> it was tremendous. 18:46:20:06 it was actually one of the key18:46:23:18 lectures of the oncology 18:46:26:21 conference of the year.18:46:27:21 we were stunned. 18:46:29:00 >> this is old enough to be a18:46:30:15 generic drug.

18:46:32:03 >> yes.18:46:32:15 >> talk about how -- obviously 18:46:34:27 industry wants the next biggest,18:46:36:21 the brightest so they will test 18:46:38:15 the biggest and the brightest.18:46:40:03 you got some of these old drugs 18:46:41:27 sitting out there doing a18:46:43:12 clinical trial on something that 18:46:45:09 old, that unusual?18:46:47:03 >> that's another part of the 18:46:48:00 challenge.18:46:49:00 an important piece of the story. 18:46:50:27 because this is a generic drug18:46:54:21 the only way a clinical trial of18:46:57:09 this expense could be done is 18:46:58:09 through the national clinical18:46:59:18 trials networks run by the

18:47:01:03 national cancer institute.18:47:03:03 that whole system is under 18:47:04:24 strain now because of budget18:47:06:03 cuts at the federal level, and 18:47:08:09 so the biggest cooperative group18:47:09:27 in the country that mayo clinic 18:47:12:03 is part of called the alliance18:47:14:06 has seen a budget cut by 40%, 18:47:17:00 really threatening our ability18:47:18:27 to do these studies n. terms of 18:47:20:18 the drug being generic, the18:47:23:24 course of treatment only costs 18:47:25:24 about $9,000.18:47:26:27 the competing drugs are all 18:47:28:24 somewhere in the range of 60 to18:47:30:12 $100,000 for a course of 18:47:32:12 treatment.18:47:32:27 so economically and in terms of

18:47:35:00 benefit to the patient there is18:47:36:09 no comparison. 18:47:37:06 >> with that in mind is there18:47:38:12 any attempt now to look at any 18:47:40:18 other older cancer drugs and see18:47:47:18 there's something else out 18:47:48:18 there.18:47:49:21 >> absolutely. 18:47:50:21 we are always looking at newer18:47:52:18 ways to use old drugs. 18:47:55:09 repurpose or reposition them in18:47:57:12 the course of care. 18:47:58:21 but there again, it really18:48:00:00 requires robust national 18:48:02:24 clinical trial system to do18:48:04:12 that. 18:48:04:24 >> do you think this just --18:48:06:06 your thoughts here, do you think

18:48:07:21 that there are generic drugs18:48:09:15 just sitting out there waiting 18:48:11:09 to be reborn, as it were?18:48:13:18 >> absolutely. 18:48:14:24 we don't usually get drugs that18:48:16:18 provide or studies that provide 18:48:18:18 this kind of dramatic response.18:48:21:00 but we constantly have studies 18:48:23:12 of older drugs that are showing18:48:26:00 uses that they previously had 18:48:27:27 not been established for.18:48:30:00 >> reaction to this clinical 18:48:31:06 trial and this study.18:48:32:21 >> very positive. 18:48:34:00 no question that this changes18:48:35:12 the standard of care in the 18:48:37:06 united states.18:48:40:06 there's going to be an education

18:48:41:24 process in terms of getting the18:48:43:06 news out so that physicians know 18:48:45:03 about it and patients hear about18:48:46:12 it. 18:48:47:00 but it's absolutely paradigm18:48:49:03 changing. 18:48:50:03 >> again, this calls for a18:48:52:09 little bit of opinion, do you 18:48:54:00 think physicians are hesitant18:48:55:24 sometimes 20 go back whether 18:48:57:09 there's all the new stuff that's18:48:58:21 supposed to be anier and better? 18:49:01:06 >> there's always excitement in18:49:02:18 doing the new thing. 18:49:04:15 and there's always more support18:49:06:27 in terms of funding to do 18:49:10:21 studies with new drugs.18:49:12:00 so it's more challenging,

18:49:13:24 frankly, to do new studies with18:49:17:09 old drugs. 18:49:18:00 i think there's a bias built18:49:19:18 into the system. 18:49:20:15 >> you said it's an exciting18:49:22:00 time regarding treatment of 18:49:23:03 prostate cancer.18:49:24:09 you said the last four, five 18:49:25:27 years we have seen a lot of18:49:27:12 advancement. 18:49:28:03 what have we seen?18:49:29:21 >> two new oral pills which act 18:49:32:18 through hormones.18:49:33:15 we have seen a new immunotherapy 18:49:36:06 drug.18:49:36:21 we can call it a vaccine like 18:49:39:03 approach to attack prostate18:49:41:06 cancer.

18:49:41:24 there's a new chemotherapy drug18:49:44:12 that comes after the one we're 18:49:46:00 talking about here, and there's18:49:47:21 a new i.v. radiation drug that 18:49:51:03 gets into the bones and attacks18:49:52:18 the cancer there. 18:49:53:27 by comparison, from the '80s18:49:56:09 up until 2006 we had a total of 18:49:59:12 five drugs approved.18:50:01:03 now we have had five in four 18:50:02:21 years.18:50:03:03 really, the pace of change is 18:50:05:03 tremendous in prostate cancer.18:50:07:06 >> that's for folks -- are we 18:50:09:27 talking prevention or just18:50:11:09 treatment once diagnosed? 18:50:13:00 >> this is advanced disease, so18:50:14:18 men who have had the diagnosis

18:50:16:15 and who have had the disease18:50:18:12 spread beyond the prostate. 18:50:20:12 >> interesting.18:50:21:03 all right, very encouraging 18:50:22:18 results there.18:50:23:06 it's nice to see that something 18:50:24:21 that's been around for a while18:50:26:00 has a new life. 18:50:27:09 >> yes.18:50:27:21 >> thank you so much. 18:50:28:18 we appreciate it.18:50:32:18 >>> we want to hear from you. 18:50:34:09 submit your questions, comments18:50:35:21 and concerns via email at 18:50:38:06 arizonahorizon@asu.edu.18:50:44:27 >>> the phoenix convention 18:50:47:00 center hosted the border18:50:48:09 security expo.

18:50:49:21 it attracted policy makers,18:50:52:18 members of law enforcement and a18:50:54:24 number of vendors. 18:50:57:00 we visited the exhibit hall18:50:59:21 where it seemed no move went 18:51:01:15 unnoticed.18:51:05:15 >> this offers night vision 18:51:07:21 capability.18:51:08:09 >> we do people counting. 18:51:09:18 reverse flow detection.18:51:11:21 we count the individuals on a 18:51:13:06 15-minute increment.18:51:14:24 >> among more than 100 companies 18:51:16:15 showing off their latest tools18:51:18:00 -- 18:51:21:06 >> this is called the drag on18:51:23:00 runner 20.

18:51:26:03 >> it was a small, quiet booth18:51:28:03 that really caught our eyes. 18:51:30:00 >> we're showing the premier18:51:32:00 facial recognition software. 18:51:34:27 >> cog any tech system is a18:51:36:12 german company with a powerful 18:51:38:06 reach.18:51:38:21 >> it's being used in airplanes, 18:51:40:27 around the world.18:51:42:03 the camera captures your face 18:51:43:21 and it's using pattern18:51:45:03 technology to look at this part 18:51:47:00 of your face.18:51:48:18 just above your eyebrow to just 18:51:50:15 above your lip.18:51:51:12 there's patterns and contours 18:51:53:15 within your face just like a18:51:55:03 fingerprint.

18:51:56:03 >> from a single image he says18:51:58:09 they can determine with a degree 18:51:59:15 of certainty your race, gender18:52:01:27 and age within about five years. 18:52:03:24 they can verify you're the18:52:05:09 person on your passport or 18:52:06:18 driver's license or run your18:52:08:27 face through a watch list or 18:52:10:15 suspect database.18:52:12:27 >> running recognition we still 18:52:14:24 have enough from the face to18:52:16:00 come up with a hit. 18:52:17:12 but that's generally not good18:52:18:21 enough. 18:52:19:09 >> they put a 2-d image into a18:52:22:06 3-d recognition level to 18:52:23:15 generate facial characteristics.18:52:25:12 >> with that information -- we

18:52:30:15 now have a match-up of suspect.18:52:35:00 >> they collect location 18:52:36:00 information too.18:52:37:00 if a person is showing up 18:52:38:18 somewhere more often than usual18:52:40:00 haskins says they can alert 18:52:42:15 police.18:52:42:27 >> we're talking about facial 18:52:44:00 recognition, not anything thata 18:52:46:03 human can't do.18:52:47:12 we're just making it faster, 18:52:49:12 quicker, more reliable.18:52:52:03 >> this is used to sur veil 18:52:54:15 large areas of the border.18:52:56:06 >> new york-based telephonics 18:52:58:18 already has 20 truck-mounted18:53:00:24 systems along our southern

18:53:02:00 border.18:53:02:27 >> he's got maps of the local 18:53:04:06 area on his computer.18:53:06:09 he can expand, he can zoom in on18:53:08:21 certain areas right down to a 18:53:11:03 street level, down to a house18:53:12:27 level. 18:53:13:06 he can see what's going on.18:53:15:03 >> the maps can reach 30 feet 18:53:16:24 high with cameras that can track18:53:19:09 people ten miles away. 18:53:20:21 >> we have found we have18:53:22:06 numerous international 18:53:23:12 opportunities for this.18:53:25:27 as you well know, there's lots 18:53:27:15 and lots of borders around the18:53:29:03 world with lots and lots of

18:53:30:27 people that don't like each18:53:32:03 other. 18:53:32:15 >> for those who don't like the18:53:34:00 possible invasion of privacy, he18:53:36:18 says -- 18:53:37:06 >> you can't have it both ways.18:53:40:00 the system is built to defend 18:53:44:03 the people, and in order to do18:53:46:27 that you have to have knowledge 18:53:49:24 of what's going on in the area.18:53:52:12 the only way you can do that is 18:53:54:00 through some of the electronic18:53:55:06 devices that we have. 18:53:56:15 >> in 199 , swedish company18:53:58:27 access communications became the 18:54:00:15 first to release a surveillance18:54:02:06 camera that could transmit data

18:54:04:27 through the interpret.18:54:05:27 >> the way it's used has to be 18:54:08:00 purposeful.18:54:08:27 i don't know that it needs to be18:54:10:21 regulated. 18:54:11:18 certainly i wouldn't say that,18:54:12:24 but it has to be done in a way 18:54:15:09 that respects people's privacy.18:54:20:21 people can use technology not 18:54:22:06 just cameras to make their18:54:24:06 environment safer, they are 18:54:25:24 generally in favor of it.18:54:27:09 >> safety is not the only 18:54:28:09 selling point.18:54:29:00 retailers are using it to save 18:54:30:21 and make money.18:54:31:21 >> if the shoplifter comes in,

18:54:34:09 security receives the alert.18:54:35:24 if it's a vip, concierge or 18:54:39:06 buyer's assistant may receive18:54:41:21 that notice. 18:54:42:18 >> businesses like to break down18:54:44:00 the demographics so they can 18:54:45:27 figure out who is shopping when18:54:47:06 and where they are spending the 18:54:48:24 most time.18:54:49:09 >> i was asked where do you see 18:54:52:12 this in ten years?18:54:53:18 i can't tell you where it will 18:54:55:15 be in six months.18:54:56:12 the technology is so evolving, 18:54:58:12 so advancing that with our18:54:59:27 company what we're doing i'm 18:55:01:00 amazed six months from now what18:55:02:27 we'll be releasing.

18:55:05:27 >> it says the company prefers18:55:07:00 to partner with universities to 18:55:08:21 work with young minds that might18:55:10:00 help come up with the next tech 18:55:12:21 lodge cam advancement.18:55:14:09 >>> thursday we'll talk about a18:55:15:27 disputed report that suggests 18:55:17:21 cap water users may face18:55:19:12 shortfalls. 18:55:20:15 we'll get the latest science18:55:22:03 news from physicist lawrence 18:55:23:27 krauss.18:55:24:21 that's thursday evening, 5:30 18:55:27:00 and 10:00, right here on18:55:28:06 "arizona horizon." 18:55:29:06 >>> that is it for now.18:55:30:06 i'm ted simons.

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